to at some role in toppling gaddafi? >> i would like to sit here and say gaddafi should be either with hugo chavez, hitler and stalin or the international criminal court and we should take actions to ensure that happens over time. >> chris: both of you talk about what people call the arab spring, extraordinary spread of people power in a lot of repressive regimes. the complication, of course, what follows it? some of the dictators are on our side, some of them aren't. let's talk first of all, senator lieberman, about the astonishing situation in syria. a violent crackdown there. but given the fact that president asad is no friend of the u.s., iran's biggest ally in the middle east, what should we do about syria? >> first, it's important to understand what we are doing with the world community in libya is what the arab world wants to us do. what the arab street wants to us do. finally we are on the side of the mass of people yearning to be free in the arab world. secondly, i think the world has made a clear statement in l